WNBA Finals
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The WNBA Finals is the championship series of the Women's National Basketball Association (WNBA) and the conclusion of the league's postseason each fall. The series was named the WNBA Championship until 2002. The series is played between the winners of the playoff semifinals. At the conclusion of the championship round, the winner of the WNBA Finals is presented the championship trophy. The WNBA Finals has been played at the conclusion of every WNBA season in history, the first being held in 1997. From 2005 to 2024, the winner of the WNBA Finals was determined through a 2–2–1 format. The first, second, and fifth games of the series were played at the arena of the team who earned home court advantage by having the better record during the regular season. Beginning in 2025, the Finals switched to a best-of-seven series with a 2–2–1–1–1 format similar to that of the NBA Finals.
Infobox
Sport
Basketball
Established
1997 (1997)
Administrator
Women's National Basketball Association
Format
Best-of-seven series
Teams
2
Defending champions
Las Vegas Aces(3rd title)
Most championships
Houston CometsMinnesota LynxSeattle Storm(4 titles)
Broadcast
ABC/ESPN
Tables
· Results
Team
Team
Year
Team
Champions
Coach
Champions
Team
Result
Coach
1997
1997
Year
1997
Champions
Houston Comets
Champions
Van Chancellor
Result
1–0
Runners-up
New York Liberty
Runners-up
Nancy Darsch
Finals MVP
Cynthia Cooper
TV
NBC
1998
1998
Year
1998
Champions
Houston Comets (2)
Champions
Van Chancellor (2)
Result
2–1
Runners-up
Phoenix Mercury
Runners-up
Cheryl Miller
Finals MVP
Cynthia Cooper (2)
TV
Game 1 and 3: ESPNGame 2: NBC
1999
1999
Year
1999
Champions
Houston Comets (3)
Champions
Van Chancellor (3)
Result
New York Liberty
Runners-up
Richie Adubato
Runners-up
Cynthia Cooper (3)
Finals MVP
Game 1: LifetimeGame 2 and 3: NBC
2000
2000
Year
2000
Champions
Houston Comets (4)
Champions
Van Chancellor (4)
Result
2–0
Runners-up
New York Liberty
Runners-up
Richie Adubato
Finals MVP
Cynthia Cooper (4)
TV
Game 1: LifetimeGame 2: NBC
2001
2001
Year
2001
Champions
Los Angeles Sparks
Champions
Michael Cooper
Result
Charlotte Sting
Runners-up
Anne Donovan
Runners-up
Lisa Leslie
Finals MVP
Game 1: ESPNGame 2: NBC
2002
2002
Year
2002
Champions
Los Angeles Sparks (2)
Champions
Michael Cooper (2)
Result
New York Liberty
Runners-up
Richie Adubato
Runners-up
Lisa Leslie (2)
2003
2003
Year
2003
Champions
Detroit Shock
Champions
Bill Laimbeer
Result
2–1
Runners-up
Los Angeles Sparks
Runners-up
Michael Cooper
Finals MVP
Ruth Riley
TV
ESPN2
2004
2004
Year
2004
Champions
Seattle Storm
Champions
Anne Donovan
Result
Connecticut Sun
Runners-up
Mike Thibault
Runners-up
Betty Lennox
2005
2005
Year
2005
Champions
Sacramento Monarchs
Champions
John Whisenant
Result
3–1
Runners-up
Connecticut Sun
Runners-up
Mike Thibault
Finals MVP
Yolanda Griffith
TV
Game 1, 2 and 4: ESPN2Game 3: ABC
2006
2006
Year
2006
Champions
Detroit Shock (2)
Champions
Bill Laimbeer (2)
Result
3–2
Runners-up
Sacramento Monarchs
Runners-up
John Whisenant
Finals MVP
Deanna Nolan
TV
ESPN2
2007
2007
Year
2007
Champions
Phoenix Mercury
Champions
Paul Westhead
Result
Detroit Shock
Runners-up
Bill Laimbeer
Runners-up
Cappie Pondexter
2008
2008
Year
2008
Champions
Detroit Shock (3)
Champions
Bill Laimbeer (3)
Result
3–0
Runners-up
San Antonio Silver Stars
Runners-up
Dan Hughes
Finals MVP
Katie Smith
2009
2009
Year
2009
Champions
Phoenix Mercury (2)
Champions
Corey Gaines
Result
3–2
Runners-up
Indiana Fever
Runners-up
Lin Dunn
Finals MVP
Diana Taurasi
2010
2010
Year
2010
Champions
Seattle Storm (2)
Champions
Brian Agler
Result
3–0
Runners-up
Atlanta Dream
Runners-up
Marynell Meadors
Finals MVP
Lauren Jackson
TV
Game 1: ABCGame 2 and 3: ESPN2
2011
2011
Year
2011
Champions
Minnesota Lynx
Champions
Cheryl Reeve
Result
Atlanta Dream
Runners-up
Marynell Meadors
Runners-up
Seimone Augustus
Finals MVP
Game 1: ESPNGame 2 and 3: ESPN2
2012
2012
Year
2012
Champions
Indiana Fever
Champions
Lin Dunn
Result
3–1
Runners-up
Minnesota Lynx
Runners-up
Cheryl Reeve
Finals MVP
Tamika Catchings
TV
Game 1, 3 and 4: ESPN2Game 2: ESPN
2013
2013
Year
2013
Champions
Minnesota Lynx (2)
Champions
Cheryl Reeve (2)
Result
3–0
Runners-up
Atlanta Dream
Runners-up
Fred Williams
Finals MVP
Maya Moore
TV
Game 1: ESPNGame 2 and 3: ESPN2
2014
2014
Year
2014
Champions
Phoenix Mercury (3)
Champions
Sandy Brondello
Result
Chicago Sky
Runners-up
Pokey Chatman
Runners-up
Diana Taurasi (2)
Finals MVP
Game 1: ABCGame 2: ESPNGame 3: ESPN2
2015
2015
Year
2015
Champions
Minnesota Lynx (3)
Champions
Cheryl Reeve (3)
Result
3–2
Runners-up
Indiana Fever
Runners-up
Stephanie White
Finals MVP
Sylvia Fowles
TV
Game 1: ABCGame 2, 3 and 5: ESPN2Game 4: ESPN
2016
2016
Year
2016
Champions
Los Angeles Sparks (3)
Champions
Brian Agler (2)
Result
Minnesota Lynx
Runners-up
Cheryl Reeve
Runners-up
Candace Parker
Finals MVP
Game 1: ABCGame 2, 4 and 5: ESPNGame 3: ESPN2
2017
2017
Year
2017
Champions
Minnesota Lynx (4)
Champions
Cheryl Reeve (4)
Result
3–2
Runners-up
Los Angeles Sparks
Runners-up
Brian Agler
Finals MVP
Sylvia Fowles (2)
TV
Game 1: ABCGame 2 and 3: ESPN2Game 4 and 5: ESPN
2018
2018
Year
2018
Champions
Seattle Storm (3)
Champions
Dan Hughes
Result
3–0
Runners-up
Washington Mystics
Runners-up
Mike Thibault
Finals MVP
Breanna Stewart
TV
Game 1: ESPNewsGame 2: ABCGame 3: ESPN2
2019
2019
Year
2019
Champions
Washington Mystics
Champions
Mike Thibault
Result
3–2
Runners-up
Connecticut Sun
Runners-up
Curt Miller
Finals MVP
Emma Meesseman
TV
Game 1 and 2: ESPNGame 3: ABCGame 4 and 5: ESPN2
2020
2020
Year
2020
Champions
Seattle Storm (4)
Champions
Gary Kloppenburg
Result
3–0
Runners-up
Las Vegas Aces
Runners-up
Bill Laimbeer
Finals MVP
Breanna Stewart (2)
TV
Game 1: ESPN2Game 2: ABCGame 3: ESPN
2021
2021
Year
2021
Champions
Chicago Sky
Champions
James Wade
Result
3–1
Runners-up
Phoenix Mercury
Runners-up
Sandy Brondello
Finals MVP
Kahleah Copper
TV
Game 1: ABCGame 2 and 4: ESPN Game 3: ESPN2
2022
2022
Year
2022
Champions
Las Vegas Aces
Champions
Becky Hammon
Result
Connecticut Sun
Runners-up
Curt Miller
Runners-up
Chelsea Gray
Finals MVP
Game 1: ABCGame 2–4: ESPN
2023
2023
Year
2023
Champions
Las Vegas Aces (2)
Champions
Becky Hammon (2)
Result
New York Liberty
Runners-up
Sandy Brondello
Runners-up
A'ja Wilson
Finals MVP
Game 1 and 3: ABCGame 2 and 4: ESPN
2024
2024
Year
2024
Champions
New York Liberty
Champions
Sandy Brondello (2)
Result
3–2
Runners-up
Minnesota Lynx
Runners-up
Cheryl Reeve
Finals MVP
Jonquel Jones
TV
Games 1, 3–5: ESPNGame 2: ABC
2025
2025
Year
2025
Champions
Las Vegas Aces (3)
Champions
Becky Hammon (3)
Result
4–0
Runners-up
Phoenix Mercury
Runners-up
Nate Tibbetts
Finals MVP
A'ja Wilson
TV
Games 1, 3 and 4: ESPNGame 2: ABC
| Year | Champions | Result | Runners-up | Finals MVP | TV | ||
| Team | Coach | Team | Coach | ||||
| 1997 | Houston Comets | Van Chancellor | 1–0 | New York Liberty | Nancy Darsch | Cynthia Cooper | NBC |
| 1998 | Houston Comets (2) | Van Chancellor (2) | 2–1 | Phoenix Mercury | Cheryl Miller | Cynthia Cooper (2) | Game 1 and 3: ESPNGame 2: NBC |
| 1999 | Houston Comets (3) | Van Chancellor (3) | New York Liberty | Richie Adubato | Cynthia Cooper (3) | Game 1: LifetimeGame 2 and 3: NBC | |
| 2000 | Houston Comets (4) | Van Chancellor (4) | 2–0 | New York Liberty | Richie Adubato | Cynthia Cooper (4) | Game 1: LifetimeGame 2: NBC |
| 2001 | Los Angeles Sparks | Michael Cooper | Charlotte Sting | Anne Donovan | Lisa Leslie | Game 1: ESPNGame 2: NBC | |
| 2002 | Los Angeles Sparks (2) | Michael Cooper (2) | New York Liberty | Richie Adubato | Lisa Leslie (2) | ||
| 2003 | Detroit Shock | Bill Laimbeer | 2–1 | Los Angeles Sparks | Michael Cooper | Ruth Riley | ESPN2 |
| 2004 | Seattle Storm | Anne Donovan | Connecticut Sun | Mike Thibault | Betty Lennox | ||
| 2005 | Sacramento Monarchs | John Whisenant | 3–1 | Connecticut Sun | Mike Thibault | Yolanda Griffith | Game 1, 2 and 4: ESPN2Game 3: ABC |
| 2006 | Detroit Shock (2) | Bill Laimbeer (2) | 3–2 | Sacramento Monarchs | John Whisenant | Deanna Nolan | ESPN2 |
| 2007 | Phoenix Mercury | Paul Westhead | Detroit Shock | Bill Laimbeer | Cappie Pondexter | ||
| 2008 | Detroit Shock (3) | Bill Laimbeer (3) | 3–0 | San Antonio Silver Stars | Dan Hughes | Katie Smith | |
| 2009 | Phoenix Mercury (2) | Corey Gaines | 3–2 | Indiana Fever | Lin Dunn | Diana Taurasi | |
| 2010 | Seattle Storm (2) | Brian Agler | 3–0 | Atlanta Dream | Marynell Meadors | Lauren Jackson | Game 1: ABCGame 2 and 3: ESPN2 |
| 2011 | Minnesota Lynx | Cheryl Reeve | Atlanta Dream | Marynell Meadors | Seimone Augustus | Game 1: ESPNGame 2 and 3: ESPN2 | |
| 2012 | Indiana Fever | Lin Dunn | 3–1 | Minnesota Lynx | Cheryl Reeve | Tamika Catchings | Game 1, 3 and 4: ESPN2Game 2: ESPN |
| 2013 | Minnesota Lynx (2) | Cheryl Reeve (2) | 3–0 | Atlanta Dream | Fred Williams | Maya Moore | Game 1: ESPNGame 2 and 3: ESPN2 |
| 2014 | Phoenix Mercury (3) | Sandy Brondello | Chicago Sky | Pokey Chatman | Diana Taurasi (2) | Game 1: ABCGame 2: ESPNGame 3: ESPN2 | |
| 2015 | Minnesota Lynx (3) | Cheryl Reeve (3) | 3–2 | Indiana Fever | Stephanie White | Sylvia Fowles | Game 1: ABCGame 2, 3 and 5: ESPN2Game 4: ESPN |
| 2016 | Los Angeles Sparks (3) | Brian Agler (2) | Minnesota Lynx | Cheryl Reeve | Candace Parker | Game 1: ABCGame 2, 4 and 5: ESPNGame 3: ESPN2 | |
| 2017 | Minnesota Lynx (4) | Cheryl Reeve (4) | 3–2 | Los Angeles Sparks | Brian Agler | Sylvia Fowles (2) | Game 1: ABCGame 2 and 3: ESPN2Game 4 and 5: ESPN |
| 2018 | Seattle Storm (3) | Dan Hughes | 3–0 | Washington Mystics | Mike Thibault | Breanna Stewart | Game 1: ESPNewsGame 2: ABCGame 3: ESPN2 |
| 2019 | Washington Mystics | Mike Thibault | 3–2 | Connecticut Sun | Curt Miller | Emma Meesseman | Game 1 and 2: ESPNGame 3: ABCGame 4 and 5: ESPN2 |
| 2020 | Seattle Storm (4) | Gary Kloppenburg | 3–0 | Las Vegas Aces | Bill Laimbeer | Breanna Stewart (2) | Game 1: ESPN2Game 2: ABCGame 3: ESPN |
| 2021 | Chicago Sky | James Wade | 3–1 | Phoenix Mercury | Sandy Brondello | Kahleah Copper | Game 1: ABCGame 2 and 4: ESPN Game 3: ESPN2 |
| 2022 | Las Vegas Aces | Becky Hammon | Connecticut Sun | Curt Miller | Chelsea Gray | Game 1: ABCGame 2–4: ESPN | |
| 2023 | Las Vegas Aces (2) | Becky Hammon (2) | New York Liberty | Sandy Brondello | A'ja Wilson | Game 1 and 3: ABCGame 2 and 4: ESPN | |
| 2024 | New York Liberty | Sandy Brondello (2) | 3–2 | Minnesota Lynx | Cheryl Reeve | Jonquel Jones | Games 1, 3–5: ESPNGame 2: ABC |
| 2025 | Las Vegas Aces (3) | Becky Hammon (3) | 4–0 | Phoenix Mercury | Nate Tibbetts | A'ja Wilson | Games 1, 3 and 4: ESPNGame 2: ABC |
· Finals appearances
Minnesota Lynx
Minnesota Lynx
Teams
Minnesota Lynx
Win
4
Loss
3
Total
7
Win %
571
Year(s) won
2011, 2013, 2015, 2017
Year(s) lost
2012, 2016, 2024
Houston Comets
Houston Comets
Teams
Houston Comets
Win
4
Loss
0
Total
4
Win %
1.000
Year(s) won
1997, 1998, 1999, 2000
Year(s) lost
-
Seattle Storm
Seattle Storm
Teams
Seattle Storm
Win
4
Loss
0
Total
4
Win %
1.000
Year(s) won
2004, 2010, 2018, 2020
Year(s) lost
-
Phoenix Mercury
Phoenix Mercury
Teams
Phoenix Mercury
Win
3
Loss
3
Total
6
Win %
500
Year(s) won
2007, 2009, 2014
Year(s) lost
1998, 2021, 2025
Los Angeles Sparks
Los Angeles Sparks
Teams
Los Angeles Sparks
Win
3
Loss
2
Total
5
Win %
600
Year(s) won
2001, 2002, 2016
Year(s) lost
2003, 2017
Las Vegas Aces
Las Vegas Aces
Teams
Las Vegas Aces
Win
3
Loss
2
Total
5
Win %
600
Year(s) won
2022, 2023, 2025
Year(s) lost
2008, 2020
Detroit Shock
Detroit Shock
Teams
Detroit Shock
Win
3
Loss
1
Total
4
Win %
750
Year(s) won
2003, 2006, 2008
Year(s) lost
2007
New York Liberty
New York Liberty
Teams
New York Liberty
Win
1
Loss
5
Total
6
Win %
167
Year(s) won
2024
Year(s) lost
1997, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2023
Indiana Fever
Indiana Fever
Teams
Indiana Fever
Win
1
Loss
2
Total
3
Win %
333
Year(s) won
2012
Year(s) lost
2009, 2015
Sacramento Monarchs
Sacramento Monarchs
Teams
Sacramento Monarchs
Win
1
Loss
1
Total
2
Win %
500
Year(s) won
2005
Year(s) lost
2006
Washington Mystics
Washington Mystics
Teams
Washington Mystics
Win
1
Loss
1
Total
2
Win %
500
Year(s) won
2019
Year(s) lost
2018
Chicago Sky
Chicago Sky
Teams
Chicago Sky
Win
1
Loss
1
Total
2
Win %
500
Year(s) won
2021
Year(s) lost
2014
Connecticut Sun
Connecticut Sun
Teams
Connecticut Sun
Win
0
Loss
4
Total
4
Win %
000
Year(s) won
-
Year(s) lost
2004, 2005, 2019, 2022
Atlanta Dream
Atlanta Dream
Teams
Atlanta Dream
Win
0
Loss
3
Total
3
Win %
000
Year(s) won
-
Year(s) lost
2010, 2011, 2013
Charlotte Sting
Charlotte Sting
Teams
Charlotte Sting
Win
0
Loss
1
Total
1
Win %
000
Year(s) won
-
Year(s) lost
2001
| Teams | Win | Loss | Total | Win % | Year(s) won | Year(s) lost |
| Minnesota Lynx | 4 | 3 | 7 | 571 | 2011, 2013, 2015, 2017 | 2012, 2016, 2024 |
| Houston Comets | 4 | 0 | 4 | 1.000 | 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000 | - |
| Seattle Storm | 4 | 0 | 4 | 1.000 | 2004, 2010, 2018, 2020 | - |
| Phoenix Mercury | 3 | 3 | 6 | 500 | 2007, 2009, 2014 | 1998, 2021, 2025 |
| Los Angeles Sparks | 3 | 2 | 5 | 600 | 2001, 2002, 2016 | 2003, 2017 |
| Las Vegas Aces | 3 | 2 | 5 | 600 | 2022, 2023, 2025 | 2008, 2020 |
| Detroit Shock | 3 | 1 | 4 | 750 | 2003, 2006, 2008 | 2007 |
| New York Liberty | 1 | 5 | 6 | 167 | 2024 | 1997, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2023 |
| Indiana Fever | 1 | 2 | 3 | 333 | 2012 | 2009, 2015 |
| Sacramento Monarchs | 1 | 1 | 2 | 500 | 2005 | 2006 |
| Washington Mystics | 1 | 1 | 2 | 500 | 2019 | 2018 |
| Chicago Sky | 1 | 1 | 2 | 500 | 2021 | 2014 |
| Connecticut Sun | 0 | 4 | 4 | 000 | - | 2004, 2005, 2019, 2022 |
| Atlanta Dream | 0 | 3 | 3 | 000 | - | 2010, 2011, 2013 |
| Charlotte Sting | 0 | 1 | 1 | 000 | - | 2001 |
· Records
Milestone
Milestone
Finals records
Milestone
Finals records
Player
Finals records
Team
Finals records
Date
Finals records
Statistic
Points, individual
Points, individual
Finals records
Points, individual
Finals records
Angel McCoughtry
Finals records
Atlanta Dream
Finals records
October 5, 2011
Finals records
38 points
Rebounds, individual
Rebounds, individual
Finals records
Rebounds, individual
Finals records
Sylvia Fowles
Finals records
Minnesota Lynx
Finals records
October 4, 2017
Finals records
20 rebounds
Assists, individual
Assists, individual
Finals records
Assists, individual
Finals records
Sue Bird
Finals records
Seattle Storm
Finals records
October 2, 2020
Finals records
16 assists
Steals, individual
Steals, individual
Finals records
Steals, individual
Finals records
Breanna Stewart
Finals records
New York Liberty
Finals records
October 13, 2024
Finals records
7 steals
Blocks, individual
Blocks, individual
Finals records
Blocks, individual
Finals records
Brittney Griner
Finals records
Phoenix Mercury
Finals records
September 7, 2014
Finals records
8 blocks
Points, team
Points, team
Finals records
Points, team
Finals records
N/A
Finals records
Phoenix Mercury
Finals records
September 29, 2009
Finals records
120 points vs. Indiana (OT)
Rebounds, team
Rebounds, team
Finals records
Rebounds, team
Finals records
N/A
Finals records
Detroit Shock
Finals records
September 8, 2007
Finals records
50 rebounds vs. Phoenix
Assists, team
Assists, team
Finals records
Assists, team
Finals records
N/A
Finals records
Seattle Storm
Finals records
October 4, 2020
Finals records
33 assists vs. Las Vegas
Steals, team
Steals, team
Finals records
Steals, team
Finals records
N/A
Finals records
Connecticut Sun
Finals records
October 8, 2004
Finals records
15 steals vs. Seattle
Blocks, team
Blocks, team
Finals records
Blocks, team
Finals records
N/A
Finals records
Minnesota Lynx
Finals records
October 2, 2011
Finals records
11 blocks vs. Atlanta
Career wins, coach
Career wins, coach
Finals records
Career wins, coach
Finals records
Van ChancellorCheryl Reeve
Finals records
Houston CometsMinnesota Lynx
Finals records
1997-20002011-2017
Finals records
4 wins
Margin of victory
Margin of victory
Finals records
Margin of victory
Finals records
N/A
Finals records
Seattle Storm
Finals records
October 6, 2020
Finals records
33-point win (92-59) over Las Vegas
Attendance, one game
Attendance, one game
Finals records
Attendance, one game
Finals records
N/A
Finals records
Detroit Shock
Finals records
September 16, 2003September 16, 2007
Finals records
22,076
| Finals records | ||||
| Milestone | Player | Team | Date | Statistic |
| Points, individual | Angel McCoughtry | Atlanta Dream | October 5, 2011 | 38 points |
| Rebounds, individual | Sylvia Fowles | Minnesota Lynx | October 4, 2017 | 20 rebounds |
| Assists, individual | Sue Bird | Seattle Storm | October 2, 2020 | 16 assists |
| Steals, individual | Breanna Stewart | New York Liberty | October 13, 2024 | 7 steals |
| Blocks, individual | Brittney Griner | Phoenix Mercury | September 7, 2014 | 8 blocks |
| Points, team | N/A | Phoenix Mercury | September 29, 2009 | 120 points vs. Indiana (OT) |
| Rebounds, team | N/A | Detroit Shock | September 8, 2007 | 50 rebounds vs. Phoenix |
| Assists, team | N/A | Seattle Storm | October 4, 2020 | 33 assists vs. Las Vegas |
| Steals, team | N/A | Connecticut Sun | October 8, 2004 | 15 steals vs. Seattle |
| Blocks, team | N/A | Minnesota Lynx | October 2, 2011 | 11 blocks vs. Atlanta |
| Career wins, coach | Van ChancellorCheryl Reeve | Houston CometsMinnesota Lynx | 1997-20002011-2017 | 4 wins |
| Margin of victory | N/A | Seattle Storm | October 6, 2020 | 33-point win (92-59) over Las Vegas |
| Attendance, one game | N/A | Detroit Shock | September 16, 2003September 16, 2007 | 22,076 |
References
- Due to the WNBA's playoff structure in 1997, two Eastern Conference teams met in the championship game
- Due to the WNBA's playoff structure in 1998, two Western Conference teams met in the championship series
- Due to the WNBA's playoff structure in 2016, two Western Conference teams met in the Finals.
- Due to the WNBA's playoff structure in 2017, two Western Conference teams met in the Finals.
- Due to the WNBA's playoff structure in 2019, two Eastern Conference teams met in the Finals.
- Due to the WNBA's playoff structure in 2020, two Western Conference teams met in the Finals.
- Due to the WNBA's playoff structure in 2025, two Western Conference teams met in the Finals.
- disbanded in December 2008
- previously known as San Antonio Silver Stars (2003–2013) and San Antonio Stars (2014–2017)
- now known as Dallas Wings
- folded on November 20, 2009
- folded on January 3, 2007
- www.wnba.comhttps://www.wnba.com/webview/news/wnba-finals-format-expansion-2025
- WNBA Ogwunikes' shot should not have counted October 21, 2016http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/10/21/wnba-ogwumikes-shot-should-not-have-counted/